Several Hindu scholars, saints, teachers, helping professionals, Hindu political leaders, writers and journalists have been entering or engaged in some form of interfaith dialogue with leaders of closed, fundamentalist, mechanistic, reductionists desert dogmas.

It is genuine, sane and required for all concerned Hindus to ask "what do we gain from entering such dialogue with those who refuse to change? What ideas from the desert political dogma which has been used for invasion, plunder, slavery, colonization, oppression, war and terrorism have special significance or value for understanding our relationships? Their closed, rigid, non-compromising belief system and behavior always have been creating effective obstacles in practicing our universal, peaceful Dharma. Islam and Christianity, as closed, rigid, and fundamentalist paradigms have their own philosophy, blind belief system, teachings, followers, war machine, separate states and powerful organizations and are strongly defended by their adherents.

We Hindus are fundamentally all alike and our basic aim is the optimum development of human being. We believe in "World is One Family" ("Vasudeiva Kudumbahakam"). To enhance this goal, we Hindus need to be aware and guided by the best we know of their past brutal history, current sinister plans, cunning strategies and techniques and goals of Islamists and Christian Missionaries.

Yes, the world is changing. We are faced everywhere with the evidence of conflict, hate, destruction, war, beheading, terrorism and coercive religious conversion. Spiritually malignant Muslims and Christians all over the world are trying to establish their own kingdom based on their blind faith. We Hindus are faced with these numberless forces of destruction and conquest. In this time of dire need, it is natural for few Hindus to engage in dialogue with our nemeses. Their good intention is to ceaselessly battle in an effort to thwart the destruction of our Dharma, and stop or slow down coercive and deceptive religious conversion of innocent and gullible Hindus. It is no wonder the frightened Hindus looks wishfully to magic and mystery for protection against our powerful adversary.

One would expect that in the face of overwhelming blows from the the brutal hands of Jihadi and Missionary warlords, Hindus would oppose steadfastedly in a unified, powerful political force. But this is not the case. Hindus are facing destruction from without and within. In this context why Hindus are displaying their extraordinary propensity for dialogue with our enemies attacking on our own existence?

Is the dialogue or debate with our distracters is helping to change their destructive dogma? Are we going to demand that they cease and desist from this deadly paradigm conspiracy? Are we strong enough to demand equitable physical, emotional, spiritual, intellectual, social, political opportunity for Hindus for a meaningful life? Hindus are currently stand with their feet in the mud, their eyes fixed on the stars.

Are we going to be successful by this dialogue to force our enemies for a theoretical change? At this juncture, we need to look at ourselves, and force Hindus to grab political power, declare India as a Hindu Rashtra and change Hindus more effectively for political participation. We have to go beyond interfaith dialogue and use our knowledge for desired change in the closed dogmas? Do we have the power to effect change? Or our enemies will psycho program us using the cunning strategy of dialogue? Christians and Muslims know how to use different increasing social pressure tactics on Hindus. We need to prepare ourselves to deal with Hindu frustration, anger, and those who feel powerless to face the organized and powerful enemy.

The increased need for Hindus is to be competent and strong to teach our adversaries new ways of dealing with Hindus .

Out of these concerns and questions, painful as they may be: Always remember that Shanti comes from Shakthi (Peace comes from strength). It is also important to remember that criminal thinkers and their destructive habits are not going to change with our eclectic and peaceful approach. Hindus need to be strong, and realistic. Reality is always more rich and accurate than our mental picture of it.

Hindu - Muslim Dialogue --- Chatting with Allah's Wild Dogs

            Irshad Mahamood may be a converted Muslim. Whatever he says has nothing to do with the crazy guardians of Islam. Hindus have been making terrible mistakes chatting with our deadly enemies . We, Hindus have respected everybody. We were and are fair-minded. We were tolerant and respected other religions including brutal, murderous Islam and made sure that they have freedom in India. Hindus have underestimated the hatred and the teaching of the koran against Hindus. We saw the readings on the wall but refused to accept what we were reading. We always thought of the best of criminal and terrorist Muslims. And we refused to judge. We, Hindus did not have a point of reference to acts of barbarism, such as beheading, burning alive, burying in sand hole, and the teaching of Islamic hatred and raising on children on hatred like mother's milk. Even today Islamic Mosques are teaching all Hindus are kaffirs. Why not Mohammedans including this double edged Irshad Mahamood speak against Islamic dictates. The truth is they do not want to speak against the Koran, Hadith and Sunna. Muslims including Irshaad believe that Islam is a complete and completed religion and need no revision, reformation or renaissance. If Irshad don't agree with what he reads in the koran,he must find a way voice his opinion.

As a converted Muslim, he has forgotten the words of Mohammad, passed on from the desert Allah. "Who relinquishes faith in Allah, kill him"."If infidels refuse to accept Allah, do not spare any one of them. Burn them with fire and kill them with force and take the women and children as prisoners of war".

Islam is not a peaceful religion. Irshad is one of Allah's wild dogs ready to attack infidels with all means necessary. To enter into a dialogue with a Muslim is like compromising with a burglar in our home with a sword ready to kill you and steal whatever you have. It is like a gaot talking to a lion on vegetarianism, or peaceful dialogue beween a dove and an eagle. Hindus will end up in the belly of Islamic beasts.

Moreover, whatever Irshad and converted Muslims say has no meaning or relevance. Islam's future is decided by the Mufti in Egypt, Saudi Arabian Mullahs, and Khomeinis of Iran and the Mufti in Delhi. They will not stop until they establish dar-Ul-Islam. What Irshad and other Muslims are preaching is Islamic Al-Taquiea for mental misdirection and numb Hindus.

The trust is until Hindus understand the cost of dialogue with Jihadis, we are doomed. We must define that Islam is our number one enemy.

I am reminded of a speech by Winston Churchill during the dark days of word war II.

"You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be for without victory, there is no survival."

It is true for Hindus today as it was for Britain when Churchill spoke those words.

Babu Suseelan

Dr. VSH wrote:

Inter-faith dialogue with fanatical monolithic INTOLERANT Abrahamic faiths like Christianity and Islam IS AN EXCERCISE IN ABSOLUTE FUTILITY AS THERE IS NO GENUINE SPIRIT OF ACOMMODATION BY THESE TWO

FAITHS EXCEPT COVERSION & CONQUEST BY COVERT OR OVERT MEANS.

           A shame on these gullible Hindu swamis for engaging in this exercise of subterfuge. These swamis JUMP at the chance on being invited to these conferences and are easily sucked in by these wily evangelists and mullahs who take no prisoners when it comes to their faith.

Adi-Shankara type approach is a perfect counter for this poisonous problem.